But if you already have a career, unless you're willing to go through that change and go through that adventure of improving and the self discovery, again, you know, is you won't do it right. A lot of people had careers and they need a they want a better one. Yeah, you do have to be adventurous to do that, right? I'm going to go and do something completely different. You know, you talk about a veterinarian there, that's not someone who's in a sort of a dead end job to decide, you know, actually, this isn't for me. Like to upend from what's possibly quite a comfortable lifestyle. And I don't think that's something I'd ever kind of thought of. Simon: Okay, that's that's interesting to highlight the kind of adventurous personality trait. And also, they are very adventurous in the way that they are OK with jumping into a big unknown and committing.

They're all looking for for a better career prospects. And what they do have in common is that they're all looking to to switch careers. So in that regard, no, nothing could be further from the truth. Some used to be CEOs for different companies, some were builders. Some of them used to be veterinarians or doctors. I've seen people from all walks of life, different ages, over 15, 18 years old. Nicolas: I would say in some key aspects, yes, and most not so in terms of background, absolutely not. So is there a typical, in your experience, boot camp student? We'll just kind of see where that takes us. So I'm just going to start kind of rattling through those. So definitely I kind of think you're matching your passion, your experience and programming. You know, you didn't you didn't sort of start off on this path. Nicolas: I used to work at Flatiron before and then I've been working at Boolean for the past seven months now and now I literally just stopped because I'm transitioning to do yet another job that is again to do with programming and education. And since then I kind of been, you know, trying to combine both into education and programming, help people change careers, changing lives. I fell in love with it too, when I was around twenty five. So I loved teaching and then I found programming. Even I used to teach English as a second language. I used to be a teacher before being a programmer. So for the past, even like three years, even before Boolean, I've always been very education oriented. So did I do a fair justice of what you've been doing Boolean and what Booleans sets out to do? Simon: Hi, so I am joined today by Nicholas Marcora, who was until this week the head of teaching at Boolean Bootcamp and really happy and really pleased that he joined me today to give us perspective on the kind of career switching aspect of going through a boot camp, clearly working with people who've had careers before and are looking to get into this world.

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